Special Skills

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Thieving Skill Modifiers from Dexterity
Dexterity Pick Pockets Open Locks Traps Move Silently Hide in Shadows
9 or less -15% -10% -10% -20% -10%
10 -10% -5% -10% -15% -5%
11 -5% - -5% -10% -
12 - - - -5% -
13-15 - - - - -
16 - +5% - - -
17 +5% +10% - +5% +5%
18 +10% +15% +5% +10% +10%
19 or more +15% +20% +10% +15% +15%


A slope is considered to be any incline of less than 60 degrees; a wall is any incline of 60 degrees or steeper.


change notes: [04:43:29] Samael: I think Mechanical, Stealth and so forth [04:43:32] Samael: SHOULD be normal skills [04:43:49] Samael: and when thieves use them, they get to add 1/5 (or 1/10) their Thieving Skill to it [04:44:05] Samael: that might be too powerful though [04:44:57] Khatoblepas: What I'd do is make the thieves skills like, nigh supernatural [04:45:01] Khatoblepas: Like move silently is SILENT [04:45:08] Khatoblepas: Hide in Shadows is literally melting into shadows [04:45:21] Khatoblepas: Pick Locks takes a round at most [04:45:38] Khatoblepas: (where it would take a turn for a locksmith) [04:45:57] Samael: I'm not sure I'd do that for first level thieves though [04:46:13] Khatoblepas: Well, they also have shitty scores at 1st level [04:46:26] Khatoblepas: They'd just be tapping into their full potential [04:46:28] Samael: Okay so [04:46:38] Samael: Make them real skills AND the thieves skill [04:46:43] Samael: and the thieves skill is just BETTER [04:46:45] Khatoblepas: Yes [04:46:57] Samael: like how they can Climb straight walls [04:47:01] Khatoblepas: Yeah [04:47:04] Khatoblepas: With no handholds [04:47:35] Samael: I'd say also that Thieves count as trained in all the relevant skills versions, too, for free, yeah? [04:47:44] Khatoblepas: YEs [04:47:54] Khatoblepas: Meaning, even if their knack for popping a lock in a round doesn't work [04:48:04] Khatoblepas: They can still spend ten minutes to do it normally [04:48:17] Samael: Which.. gets around the re-roll issue [04:48:31] Samael: it also means that "knock" is a good alternative if there's no party thief [04:48:32] Samael: but a thief? [04:48:38] Samael: yeah he can do that shit like its nothing anyway [04:48:40] Samael: if thats their thing